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Coming up
on Life Today.
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When churches seem far
from God's design,
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Natalie Runyion
helps us better understand
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the house
that Jesus built.
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>> And so I just pray
as I traveled,
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like Lord,
you are so kind.
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There are more good churches
than bad churches.
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There are more
healthy shepherds
than unhealthy shepherds.
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I want to encourage
everyone listening
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that yes, you've probably
had a bad experience
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with one church,
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but for every one
that has wounded you,
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there are a hundred more
willing to help you heal.
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♪
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RANDY: Welcome to LIFE Today!
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I'm Randy Robison.
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This is Tammy Trent.
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How are you doing?
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TAMMY: I'm good!
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RANDY: I love my church.
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We've been blessed to be
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in some really great churches.
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How do you like your church?
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TAMMY: I love my church.
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I really, really do.
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What a blessing to be
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at a church, which you know,
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that you love, and that
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you feel is flourishing.
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And even though
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they're probably not doing
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everything right, at least
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it feels like they are.
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I love it!
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RANDY: I think that's probably
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the case for most of you,
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but definitely not all of you.
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We're going to talk about
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some of the issues
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with the church and maybe
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how we can approach it
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and make our church better.
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Our guest today
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is Natalie Runyion.
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She has a book called
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The House That Jesus Built.
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Natalie has not always
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had great experiences
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in churches.
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So if you've experienced
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a little bit of what they call
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"church hurt," we're going
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to give you, a little bit
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of encouragement today.
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Good to see you, Natalie.
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How are you?
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NATALIE: I'm well.
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It is so good
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to be back with you guys.
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RANDY: How is your church
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these days?
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NATALIE: Amazing!
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Man, we are a part
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of the most thriving,
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beautiful, healthy church.
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It's been a very restorative
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and redemptive season.
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RANDY: That hasn't
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always been the case.
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Explain a little bit of why
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this is an issue for you.
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NATALIE: I grew up
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as a pastor's kid so I saw
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the underbelly of the beast
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my entire life.
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I saw the good, the bad,
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the brutal, the beautiful,
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and so I think
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when you come face to face
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with the honesty
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that we are humans
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in our flesh
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leading something holy,
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that is God's, that we're
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going to be disappointed,
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we're going to be let down,
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and many times wounded.
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For some, so wounded
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that they haven't been able
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to heal properly to come back.
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And for others of us,
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just kind of constantly
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daily wrestling
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with our relationship
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with God's people
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in the church
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while desperately wanting
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to cling to the Lord.
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TAMMY: Let me start at the top
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where you talk
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about the blueprint.
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How did we get away
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from the original blueprint?
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NATALIE: It is such
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a slippery slope.
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We start with good intentions.
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We want to build our churches
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just as the early church did.
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We want to grow,
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we want to get the gospel out.
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And then worldly measures
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start coming in,
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how much money is coming in?
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Social media, technology.
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We start putting pastors
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on platforms
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and they start building
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their own personas and
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writing books and speaking.
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And now we have celebrities
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as pastors, not people
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who necessarily know
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or are called to shepherd.
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So we just very slowly
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started fading away
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from God's original design
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for the church,
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which was really to preach
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the message of Jesus Christ
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and bring salvation
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to the lost.
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That was the original intent.
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TAMMY: So what about
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the churches where you talk
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about the celebrity
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or the smoke during worship,
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all the stuff that's going on?
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Is there a place for that
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in the church?
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What is your thought
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when it comes to that?
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NATALIE: Well, the disciples
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and the Apostle Paul,
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they all knew their culture.
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They knew their poets,
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they knew the different
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political cultures.
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So the church
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has always been moving
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with the current culture,
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and we have to be aware
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of our culture.
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So when we see things
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like smoke and lights,
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and certain things like that,
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we can say,
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okay, that's a culture.
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That's something
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that we're matching the times
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that we're in.
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That's something
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that people value these days;
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not everyone, but some.
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Because we live in America,
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we have the choice
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to pretty much go
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to any church on the corner
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and pick our adventure.
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Like do we want
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to have smoke and lights?
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Do we want to have
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an organist?
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Do we want to have
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Sunday School?
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Do we not?
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So we're blessed
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here in America
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to be able to pick and choose
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what we prefer,
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which the Acts church,
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didn't have that luxury.
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And churches around the world
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don't have that luxury
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as well.
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RANDY: You're talking
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about style, and I'm with you,
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I love that we have
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different styles
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because different styles
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help different people connect.
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As long as the point
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is always to connect to God,
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I think it is a good thing.
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Right?
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I think one of our
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classic mistakes,
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and I'd love to hear
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your input on this,
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is we oftentimes
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go to a church
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thinking what am I going
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to get out of it?
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As opposed to how am I going
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to contribute to be a part?
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Do some of the problems,
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and some of the solutions
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start with us?
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NATALIE: Always. Always!
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It's why we have
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to pray that prayer,
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search my heart, O Lord,
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and find out if there
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is any wicked way in me.
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We start with repentance
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and inspecting the foundations
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of our own houses
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before we walk into a church
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and demand that it is perfect
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or that it meets
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all of our criteria.
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We have become
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a consumer culture.
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I talk about that in the book,
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how easy it is
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to Google review a church
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like we're staying
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at an airbnb.
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Well, the coffee wasn't hot.
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The music was too loud.
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But what we're forgetting
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is that the original church
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was founded on things
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like community and communion
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and worship and repentance
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and reconciliation.
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These are all things
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that whether you have an organ
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or you have the biggest,
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most famous band leading you
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in worship every week,
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that we can all agree on
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that that original foundation
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truly was the very fundamental
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part of our Christianity
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and it started with Jesus
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and it ends with Jesus.
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TAMMY: Totally.
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Natalie, there are
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a couple of things
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I want to read
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that stood out to me.
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It's like I put them
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on a sticky note.
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It was a powerful reminder
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to me every single day.
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"There is coming a day
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when it will be very clear
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who built with Jesus and
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who built for themselves."
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"God is patient
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but is not unaware."
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That one hit me hard
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because we're always
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talking about Jesus
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is always so patient.
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But you went on to say,
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"But God is not unaware."
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He is so aware.
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I want to also say, "God
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doesn't want a clean house,
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he wants a holy house."
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What does that look like?
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NATALIE: Well, first of all,
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we have to stop putting
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such an emphasis
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on the gifts that we get
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as consumers of Christ
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and start focusing
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on the fruit
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that we are producing.
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How will we know
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if something is of God?
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The proof will be
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in the fruit.
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And what is that fruit?
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Well, we read about that
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in Galatians, it's joy,
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peace, gentleness, kindness.
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But then beyond that,
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its measure is of salvation.
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Are we bringing the lost
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to be found?
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Are we in our cities
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feeding the homeless?
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Are we taking care
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of the widow and the orphan?
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Are we bringing in those
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who have been marginalized?
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That's the fruit
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that we're looking for.
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So when we get to heaven,
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all these earthly treasures
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we built up in social media,
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following, and books
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that we've written
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and songs that we've produced,
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that's all great here
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but that's not anything
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we can take into eternity.
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We can only take each other
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into eternity.
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TAMMY: Exactly right.
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RANDY: When you,
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your point, where you had
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to make that decision,
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am I going to be a part
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of a church
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or am I going to walk away?
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What were some of the issues
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that you ran into?
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I think a lot of people
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who are struggling with church
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can relate
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to some of the things
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that you've been through.
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NATALIE: It is just hard
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to trust again.
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You want to believe
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that the house that built us,
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especially those of us
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who grew up in church,
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that we're going
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to be protected
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by this institution.
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That should be
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the safest place
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on the planet;
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the church should be
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the safest place.
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And yet, so many people
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have walked in
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and they've been rejected.
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We've been assigning
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Scarlet letters
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rather than
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extending Scarlet ropes.
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So people are walking in
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and they're thinking,
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am I going to get hurt again?
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Am I going to be
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rejected again?
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Am I going to be
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marginalized again
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in the very place
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where it says
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all sinners are welcome
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and everyone is welcome?
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So I think trust
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is a huge part.
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For me, it's even why
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I get hesitant sometimes
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to want to join
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a church staff again.
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Will I get hurt
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by another leader
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or by another pastor?
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I also think that we feel
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a little bit
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of bait and switch sometimes,
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in the church community
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where we're made promises.
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Like if you do X, Y, and Z
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then you're going to get
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this in return.
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So we serve
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and we work 50-hour weeks
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or we show up
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when nobody else will show up
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and we're more lonely
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than ever,
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we're more discouraged
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than ever.
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A lot of that is because
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we've attached ourselves
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to counterfeit connections.
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Jesus says
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that he is the vine,
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we are the branches,
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and that if we will just
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remain in him,
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that he'll remain in us.
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But so much of
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this deconstruction movement
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and leaving the church
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I believe has come
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from where we've
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attached ourselves
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to faulty connections, and
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attached ourselves to people
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versus remaining in Christ.
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Because when people fail us,
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God stays the same.
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RANDY: Yeah! That is so true.
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What do you look for
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when you walk in a church?
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NATALIE: Oh man,
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I'm looking for people
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who are happy that I'm there.
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I'm looking for people
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who are happy
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that they're there.
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I'm watching for joy.
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I'm watching for community,
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signs of community.
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I'm looking for a
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multi-generational community.
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I'm looking for
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multi-ethnic communities
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that model my city.
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It isn't just a vanilla look
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at what we think
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the church should be.
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I want to see all believers.
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I want it to look like
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the upper room.
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And I don't mean
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tongues of fire flowing.
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I mean I want to see baptisms,
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I want to see potlucks,
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I want to see people
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breaking bread together,
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I want to see communion.
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I don't need
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to feel the chills.
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I don't need to feel emotion
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but I do want to know
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that I'm wanted.
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And that when I walk in,
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Christ is made known,
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that he is the first one
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preaching on that platform.
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He is the one
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that's sending us out.
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And I want the church
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to be a mission field,
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not a country club.
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So I'm looking for a place
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that is going out
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and doing things
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beyond their Jerusalem,
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Judea, and Samaria.
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I'm watching for us to go
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to the ends of the earth.
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I'm looking for a shepherd
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who preaches the Word of God,
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Genesis through Revelation.
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I'm looking for a pastor
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who is going
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to preach to me Jesus,
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not politics.
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And I'm looking for a church
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that stewards their finances
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and honors people's worship.
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Because when we tithe,
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we as a church
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are spending people's worship.
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So I'm looking
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for stewardship, I'm looking
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for accountability
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for leaders at all levels.
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Those are just some things
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that you can see a little bit
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in maybe the website
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but what you're looking for,
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you have to stay
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a little bit longer
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to know if those things
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are in place.
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TAMMY: It sounds like
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the perfect church.
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And we know the perfect church
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does not exist
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but it sounds like
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the perfect church
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and you have to be looking
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for those things.
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How do we get there?
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If a church is saying our
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leadership is falling apart,
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we are crumbling,
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how do they begin to rebuild?
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NATALIE: Well, God is doing
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the holy house cleaning
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in his church
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and that is happening
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supernaturally.
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We're seeing that
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through leaders
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who have made mistakes
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in the past,
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those things are starting
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to come to the surface.
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God is cleaning house
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because he loves his people,
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and he even loves
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those leaders enough
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to bring them into correction.
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We have to remember
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as church leaders
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that we are not to be critics
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of one another
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but we are to be
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fruit inspectors.
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And so it is okay for us to
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look around our organization
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or the church
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and say, wait a minute,
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I see a crack.
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I don't think
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it is intentional
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but somebody could get hurt.
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How can we begin
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to seek the Lord
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to bring restoration
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to this issue?
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We cannot be offended
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when leaders come to us,
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or when congregants
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even come to us and say,
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I'm concerned about
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(fill in the blank.)
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Because not everyone coming in
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is a critic.
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They have discernment.
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They see things
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that we as leaders don't see
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because they're
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in kids' ministry,
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they're behind the scenes,
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they're in conversation
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with people we're not.
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So we can't have
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all the suspicion
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that everyone coming to us
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is just complaining.
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We as congregants
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have to understand
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that we are not critics
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of the house
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but we are to be inspectors,
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fruit inspectors.
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And then in truth,
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humility, and love
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bring those concerns
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and say, this is how
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we can do it better.
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RANDY: I had a house,
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a literal house,
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where the foundation
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was shifting.
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It is Texas,
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it happens all the time.
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Everybody around here knows.
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And we would get cracks.
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You know there are
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one or two things
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you can do with a crack.
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You can go in and you
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can just rip it wide open
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or you can try to fill it
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and make it better.
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And of course,
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you deal with the foundation,
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obviously.
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When you talk about
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the critics, I have a concern
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and that's why this topic
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can be a little dicey for me,
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even talking about it
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on television,
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I don't want to give
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the impression
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that we are the police
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of the church.
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That we're above human faults.
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How do we discern things
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and even point out things
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without being that critic
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who is just ripping
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that crack wide open?
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NATALIE: It goes back to,
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first of all,
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handling our own cracks
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because there is something
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so humbling about the Lord
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working on you.
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When people are kind to you,
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patient with you,
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when they are modeling
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that fruit with you
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when you're living a life
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that is not healthy
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at its foundation
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then God says that
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we are to give as freely
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as we have received.
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So if we are truly walking
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in humility with the Lord,
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our heart is not to go in
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and rip churches apart.
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But to say
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God has been kind to me,
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God has been gracious to me,
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and in return,
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I want to offer that
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to my brothers and sisters
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and leaders.
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And so we go in,
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and with truth, humility,
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and love, we don't go in
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with a wrecking ball,
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we go in with a white glove
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called discernment
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and we serve.
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We get our hands dirty.
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We get into the weeds.
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We get into conversations.
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And as we fall in love
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with God's people,
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as we begin to see
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that leadership loves us,
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they're not perfect
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but they love us,
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then my intent
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is not to tear the house down
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but to do
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what you're talking about.
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Go in and say, hey,
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I have a solution to this.
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Can I help fill that crack?
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Oh no, there is a crack.
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You need to deal with that.
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RANDY: That is so right.
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Here's a difficult part for me
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and I'm wondering if
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you've had to deal with this.
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I suspect you have, we all do.
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Sometimes I go to a church
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and I go, I don't think
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that's what scripture says.
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I'm not --
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I never went to seminary.
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I'm not like
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the chief theologian
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of the church,
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I know that.
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But what do you do
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when you go in and you go,
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I just, I think scripturally,
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it's just off.
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Do we just walk?
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Or do we have
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another responsibility
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in that case, do you think?
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NATALIE: I think this is where
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the power under
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the control of meekness
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comes into play in the church.
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Because first of all,
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unlike you and I
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who may go in
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and know the Word of God,
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I think a lot of people
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don't know the Word of God.
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They don't even know if
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they're being taught heresy.
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RANDY: That's true.
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Even some pastors!
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NATALIE: Yeah,
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they don't know.
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So there is an oblivion
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of biblical illiteracy
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that we're dealing with
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right now
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because of social media,
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and things like that.
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So we have to realize
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there are very few people
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who are hearing some things
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and checking that.
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So when we do,
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pastors don't really know
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what to do with that
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when they get confronted.
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I think of Esther
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and how she prayed
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and she fasted
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before she went to the king.
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I'm not saying that pastors
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are kings by any means,
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but what I'm saying is
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that there is a time
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and a place
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where God gives us
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both favor and boldness
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through power under control
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after we have prayed
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and fasted over something
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to say, God,
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would you have me contend
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for the culture of this house
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right now?
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Or are you going to do that
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through someone else?
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That's hard for a lot of us
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who are trigger-happy.
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Because we want to like,
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that's wrong!
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You can't say that.
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But for me
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when I've had this happen,
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and I've had it happen a lot,
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especially traveling all over
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the world where I'm like,
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oh, I think that's off.
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I go home and I want to write
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an email, "You've just
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deceived a lot of people."
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What the Lord is teaching me
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is that with truth, humility,
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and love we sit in the tension
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of not being able to fix it.
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And we ask him, God,
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in your Holy Spirit
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will you convict that pastor
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that he missed that?
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Then I'm going to study,
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I'm going to get into my word.
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I'm going to dissect this
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100 different ways
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to make sure I'm not wrong.
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Then I'm going to pray and
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fast for how to move forward.
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And sometimes the Lord
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will give me the green light,
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and other times he says,
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it is not your battle.
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So discernment is knowing
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when to go into the fight
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and when to sit back
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and let God fight it.
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And that just takes time, and
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honestly, spiritual maturity.
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TAMMY: That is good wisdom,
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right there. Honestly!
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Because so many of us
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are so quick, Randy,
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like you said, of --
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RANDY: I am. I notice.
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I want to say something.
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My wife is like, "Be quiet."
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NATALIE: But it is because
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you care and I don't want
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to tell people don't care.
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That is an honest reaction
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to be like wow!
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You're deceiving the sheep.
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But I am learning
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that I can bring more chaos
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with my emotions
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than if I just let
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the Holy Spirit be the one
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to do the convicting
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and allow him to tell me
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what to do next.
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TAMMY: But the maturity in
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your relationship with Jesus
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to say, let me go home,
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let me sit in this for a bit.
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Let me pray
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that the Holy Spirit
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will do the convicting.
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I don't have to be
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the Holy Spirit, let the
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Holy Spirit do his job.
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And then let me get
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into the word
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and teach me something there
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and wait for the green light
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or wait for the red light.
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You're right.
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Not everything
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is our assignment.
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Not everything we have
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to have our hands into.
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But pray over it, completely.
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Pray over everything.
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And I know that God
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will always have his way.
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He will send the right people,
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I think, to convict,
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along with the Holy Spirit.
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But how has this book
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changed you?
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How has it changed
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your ministry?
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NATALIE: It's given me
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a much more sensitive heart
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toward pastors, honestly.
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Because being a pastor's kid
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you grow up being empathetic
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to your father.
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You see what
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your father goes through.
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And then you also get
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a little bit hardened
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because you see
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that there are, yes, shepherds
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doing a really good job
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but then you also see the ones
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that are struggling
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or who aren't protecting
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the sheep
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the way that they should.
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So as I've been traveling
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with this message,
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and I'm listening to pastors
00:18:00.078 --> 00:18:01.180 align:start line:63% position:10% size:70%
talking about how hard it is
00:18:01.246 --> 00:18:02.581 align:start line:63% position:10% size:45%
to lead sheep well
00:18:02.648 --> 00:18:04.149 align:start line:63% position:10% size:70%
in a deconstruction movement
00:18:04.216 --> 00:18:05.417 align:start line:63% position:10% size:38%
with everything
00:18:05.484 --> 00:18:06.485 align:start line:85% position:10% size:75%
that we're seeing politically,
00:18:06.552 --> 00:18:07.586 align:start line:85% position:10% size:40%
and the division
00:18:07.653 --> 00:18:08.620 align:start line:85% position:10% size:40%
that's happening
00:18:08.687 --> 00:18:09.621 align:start line:85% position:10% size:45%
within the church,
00:18:09.688 --> 00:18:10.622 align:start line:85% position:10% size:65%
it's given me a tenderness
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back for the shepherds
00:18:11.924 --> 00:18:12.891 align:start line:85% position:10% size:73%
to understand that rebuilding
00:18:12.958 --> 00:18:13.959 align:start line:85% position:10% size:58%
costs us all something.
00:18:14.026 --> 00:18:15.160 align:start line:85% position:10% size:40%
Because any time
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in the scriptures
00:18:16.261 --> 00:18:17.329 align:start line:85% position:10% size:60%
that God asks his people
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to tear down something,
00:18:18.464 --> 00:18:19.565 align:start line:85% position:10% size:45%
and there has been
00:18:19.631 --> 00:18:20.632 align:start line:85% position:10% size:68%
some healthy deconstruction
00:18:20.699 --> 00:18:21.800 align:start line:85% position:10% size:63%
that has needed to happen
00:18:21.867 --> 00:18:22.935 align:start line:85% position:10% size:35%
in the church,
00:18:23.001 --> 00:18:24.069 align:start line:85% position:10% size:70%
where our foundations needed
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to have a little
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of a rubblezation,
00:18:26.505 --> 00:18:27.573 align:start line:85% position:10% size:73%
where we tore some things up.
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But it is hard to rebuild
00:18:29.374 --> 00:18:30.609 align:start line:85% position:10% size:28%
when people
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are constantly skeptical
00:18:32.010 --> 00:18:34.146 align:start line:85% position:10% size:68%
and waiting for you to fall
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or to fail.
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So this book has given me a
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tenderness towards shepherds,
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and also a patience
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with the sheep.
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To say that
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we have been deceived
00:18:42.454 --> 00:18:43.489 align:start line:85% position:10% size:38%
in so many ways
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through social media,
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through wolves
00:18:45.691 --> 00:18:46.692 align:start line:85% position:10% size:50%
in sheep's clothing,
00:18:46.758 --> 00:18:47.793 align:start line:85% position:10% size:48%
all of those things
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and that we are just a bunch
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of humans trying to carry
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this perfect gospel.
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And so if we can
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just give the same grace
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that we have received
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from our Father,
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then we won't be so quick
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to be critics.
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We will be more patient and
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loving and kind and caring,
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all that fruit
00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:02.007 align:start line:85% position:10% size:75%
that we've been talking about.
00:19:02.074 --> 00:19:03.041 align:start line:85% position:10% size:45%
And so I just pray
00:19:03.108 --> 00:19:04.076 align:start line:85% position:10% size:30%
as I travel,
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Lord, you are so kind.
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There are more good churches
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than bad churches.
00:19:08.013 --> 00:19:08.981 align:start line:85% position:10% size:35%
There are more
00:19:09.047 --> 00:19:10.015 align:start line:85% position:10% size:43%
healthy shepherds
00:19:10.082 --> 00:19:11.049 align:start line:85% position:10% size:63%
than unhealthy shepherds.
00:19:11.116 --> 00:19:12.150 align:start line:85% position:10% size:48%
I want to encourage
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everyone listening
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that yes, you've probably
00:19:14.386 --> 00:19:15.454 align:start line:85% position:10% size:50%
had a bad experience
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with one church
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but for every one
00:19:17.723 --> 00:19:18.724 align:start line:85% position:10% size:50%
that has wounded you
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there are 100 more willing
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to help you heal.
00:19:20.993 --> 00:19:22.027 align:start line:85% position:10% size:30%
That is what
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we're contending for
00:19:23.095 --> 00:19:24.096 align:start line:85% position:10% size:33%
in this book.
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RANDY: There is hope.
00:19:25.297 --> 00:19:26.331 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
There is always hope.
00:19:26.398 --> 00:19:27.366 align:start line:85% position:10% size:40%
I love it. Okay.
00:19:27.432 --> 00:19:28.433 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
There is hope for you
00:19:28.500 --> 00:19:29.568 align:start line:85% position:10% size:38%
in your church.
00:19:29.635 --> 00:19:30.736 align:start line:85% position:10% size:45%
A big part of that
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is serving the community,
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serving the people around you,
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whether you're in leadership
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or you're just a member
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of the church.
00:19:38.010 --> 00:19:39.111 align:start line:85% position:10% size:73%
The idea of getting out there
00:19:39.177 --> 00:19:40.379 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
and finding that need
00:19:40.445 --> 00:19:42.180 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
and not exploiting it
00:19:42.247 --> 00:19:43.448 align:start line:85% position:10% size:35%
but being part
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of the solution.
00:19:44.783 --> 00:19:46.051 align:start line:85% position:10% size:43%
And that goes for
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not just your local church,
00:19:47.719 --> 00:19:49.087 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
not just our country,
00:19:49.154 --> 00:19:52.024 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
but around the world.
00:19:52.090 --> 00:19:53.225 align:start line:85% position:10% size:55%
We have an opportunity
00:19:53.292 --> 00:19:54.393 align:start line:85% position:10% size:68%
where there is a great need
00:19:54.459 --> 00:19:56.395 align:start line:85% position:10% size:33%
and I, Tammy,
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just feel privileged
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that we can be a part
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of serving people
00:20:00.299 --> 00:20:01.667 align:start line:85% position:10% size:38%
in those needs.
00:20:01.733 --> 00:20:03.101 align:start line:85% position:10% size:35%
You know what?
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You can be a part of that too.
00:20:04.770 --> 00:20:07.306 align:start line:85% position:10% size:75%
Watch this and you'll see how.
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Earth is often referred to
as the blue planet
00:20:11.643 --> 00:20:13.579 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55%
due to its vast oceans
00:20:13.645 --> 00:20:16.081 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60%
that cover over
two-thirds of the globe.
00:20:16.148 --> 00:20:18.951 align:start line:79% position:15% size:68%
Yet, only three percent
of the entire earth's water
00:20:19.017 --> 00:20:20.953 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50%
is considered fresh.
00:20:21.019 --> 00:20:22.955 align:start line:79% position:33% size:35%
The scarcity
of fresh water
00:20:23.021 --> 00:20:24.957 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40%
is one of
the main reasons
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that women and children
in remote areas
00:20:27.025 --> 00:20:29.861 align:center line:79% position:50% size:68%
are forced to collect water
from unsafe sources.
00:20:29.928 --> 00:20:31.863 align:start line:58% position:43% size:35%
JOHN: I'm here
in South Sudan
00:20:31.930 --> 00:20:33.865 align:center line:58% position:60% size:50%
where we just
got through speaking
00:20:33.932 --> 00:20:35.867 align:center line:58% position:60% size:33%
with a mother
named Mary.
00:20:35.934 --> 00:20:39.071 align:start line:79% position:20% size:58%
Mary came from a very
distant village to here
00:20:39.137 --> 00:20:41.239 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45%
because of
this water source.
00:20:41.306 --> 00:20:44.009 align:start line:79% position:25% size:48%
She considered this
a good water source
00:20:44.076 --> 00:20:47.212 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60%
because, in her village,
she had no water.
00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:51.850 align:start line:79% position:15% size:70%
What Mary doesn't realize is
that this water that is here
00:20:51.917 --> 00:20:55.520 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43%
is actually toxic
to her children.
00:20:55.587 --> 00:20:58.323 align:start line:79% position:33% size:35%
And she's lost
two children
00:20:58.390 --> 00:21:00.592 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38%
from waterborne
illness now.
00:21:00.659 --> 00:21:04.262 align:start line:79% position:30% size:40%
As heartbreaking
as it is,
00:21:04.329 --> 00:21:07.499 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50%
this water is better
than no water.
00:21:07.566 --> 00:21:11.303 align:start line:79% position:30% size:38%
But this water
will kill them.
00:21:11.370 --> 00:21:13.305 align:start line:79% position:18% size:63%
With your help,
we can make a difference.
00:21:13.372 --> 00:21:15.307 align:start line:79% position:25% size:50%
With your help
with Water for LIFE,
00:21:15.374 --> 00:21:17.309 align:center line:79% position:50% size:33%
we can assure
this village,
00:21:17.376 --> 00:21:20.512 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63%
and villages
like what Mary came from,
00:21:20.579 --> 00:21:23.181 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63%
will not have to worry
about waterborne illness.
00:21:23.248 --> 00:21:25.183 align:start line:79% position:28% size:43%
They can have
fresh clean water
00:21:25.250 --> 00:21:28.020 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38%
through
Water for LIFE.
00:21:30.756 --> 00:21:36.061 align:start line:85% position:10% size:75%
TAMMY: That little guy, Randy!
00:21:36.128 --> 00:21:37.929 align:start line:85% position:10% size:58%
It gives me so much joy
00:21:37.996 --> 00:21:39.331 align:start line:85% position:10% size:73%
because there is so much life
00:21:39.398 --> 00:21:41.199 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
in that moment to see
00:21:41.266 --> 00:21:43.602 align:start line:85% position:10% size:60%
that rig going in there,
00:21:43.669 --> 00:21:46.171 align:start line:85% position:10% size:43%
to see that drill
00:21:46.238 --> 00:21:47.639 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
going into the ground
00:21:47.706 --> 00:21:50.108 align:start line:85% position:10% size:70%
and knowing that soon after,
00:21:50.175 --> 00:21:51.510 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
sometimes it is soon,
00:21:51.576 --> 00:21:52.744 align:start line:85% position:10% size:48%
sometimes I've seen
00:21:52.811 --> 00:21:54.179 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
that it's taken days,
00:21:54.246 --> 00:21:55.814 align:start line:85% position:10% size:73%
but eventually, they will hit
00:21:55.881 --> 00:21:57.683 align:start line:85% position:10% size:45%
fresh clean water.
00:21:57.749 --> 00:21:59.451 align:start line:85% position:10% size:40%
And to know that
00:21:59.518 --> 00:22:01.019 align:start line:85% position:10% size:68%
for the rest of their lives
00:22:01.086 --> 00:22:02.688 align:start line:85% position:10% size:48%
that entire village
00:22:02.754 --> 00:22:04.356 align:start line:85% position:10% size:58%
is going to be thriving
00:22:04.423 --> 00:22:06.525 align:start line:85% position:10% size:30%
and growing,
00:22:06.591 --> 00:22:08.226 align:start line:85% position:10% size:75%
not just being provided water,
00:22:08.293 --> 00:22:10.762 align:start line:85% position:10% size:73%
but truly being provided life
00:22:10.829 --> 00:22:12.230 align:start line:85% position:10% size:55%
in Jesus, knowing that
00:22:12.297 --> 00:22:14.266 align:start line:85% position:10% size:48%
he is their source,
00:22:14.332 --> 00:22:15.767 align:start line:85% position:10% size:45%
that he is the one
00:22:15.834 --> 00:22:17.402 align:start line:85% position:10% size:70%
that brought them that life.
00:22:17.469 --> 00:22:18.970 align:start line:85% position:10% size:60%
We are just ambassadors,
00:22:19.037 --> 00:22:20.439 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
and we just get to be
00:22:20.505 --> 00:22:21.673 align:start line:85% position:10% size:33%
a part of it.
00:22:21.740 --> 00:22:23.108 align:start line:85% position:10% size:60%
That's the beauty of it,
00:22:23.175 --> 00:22:24.409 align:start line:85% position:10% size:60%
Randy, is knowing truly,
00:22:24.476 --> 00:22:25.644 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
that we all get to be
00:22:25.711 --> 00:22:26.978 align:start line:85% position:10% size:55%
a part of that moment.
00:22:27.045 --> 00:22:28.280 align:start line:85% position:10% size:50%
RANDY: Could not see
00:22:28.346 --> 00:22:29.481 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
the pictures and hear
00:22:29.548 --> 00:22:30.916 align:start line:85% position:10% size:60%
the stories that we hear
00:22:30.982 --> 00:22:32.184 align:start line:85% position:10% size:43%
if we didn't know
00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:33.351 align:start line:85% position:10% size:68%
that we could do something.
00:22:33.418 --> 00:22:34.619 align:start line:85% position:10% size:43%
That poor mother,
00:22:34.686 --> 00:22:35.821 align:start line:85% position:10% size:65%
she found out the hard way
00:22:35.887 --> 00:22:37.222 align:start line:85% position:10% size:68%
that the water wasn't safe.
00:22:37.289 --> 00:22:38.623 align:start line:85% position:10% size:23%
You think
00:22:38.690 --> 00:22:40.225 align:start line:85% position:10% size:58%
we should educate them.
00:22:40.292 --> 00:22:42.260 align:start line:85% position:10% size:55%
Yes, we can and we do.
00:22:42.327 --> 00:22:43.528 align:start line:85% position:10% size:20%
Or maybe
00:22:43.595 --> 00:22:44.629 align:start line:85% position:10% size:68%
they should boil the water,
00:22:44.696 --> 00:22:45.831 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
or they should filter
00:22:45.897 --> 00:22:46.932 align:start line:85% position:10% size:25%
the water.
00:22:46.998 --> 00:22:48.133 align:start line:85% position:10% size:20%
They try
00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:49.434 align:start line:85% position:10% size:60%
so many of those things.
00:22:49.501 --> 00:22:50.669 align:start line:85% position:10% size:50%
Let's just give them
00:22:50.736 --> 00:22:51.937 align:start line:85% position:10% size:30%
clean water.
00:22:52.003 --> 00:22:53.171 align:start line:85% position:10% size:65%
Let's just give them water
00:22:53.238 --> 00:22:54.473 align:start line:85% position:10% size:48%
that they can drink
00:22:54.539 --> 00:22:55.707 align:start line:85% position:10% size:70%
and not have to worry about.
00:22:55.774 --> 00:22:57.042 align:start line:85% position:10% size:45%
We know this works
00:22:57.109 --> 00:22:58.410 align:start line:85% position:10% size:60%
because, over the years,
00:22:58.477 --> 00:22:59.745 align:start line:85% position:10% size:40%
we're getting up
00:22:59.811 --> 00:23:02.647 align:start line:85% position:10% size:63%
close to 9,000 wells now.
00:23:02.714 --> 00:23:05.684 align:start line:85% position:10% size:63%
But this year, right now,
00:23:05.751 --> 00:23:07.753 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
our goal is 350 wells
00:23:07.819 --> 00:23:09.821 align:start line:85% position:10% size:35%
in 20 nations.
00:23:10.155 --> 00:23:11.456 align:start line:10% position:10% size:73%
We're only going to meet that
00:23:11.523 --> 00:23:13.391 align:start line:10% position:10% size:58%
if people just like you
00:23:13.458 --> 00:23:15.093 align:start line:10% position:10% size:53%
step up and say, yes,
00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:16.361 align:start line:10% position:10% size:48%
I want to be a part
00:23:16.428 --> 00:23:17.596 align:start line:10% position:10% size:45%
of Water for LIFE.
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I don't want that mother
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to find out the hard way.
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I don't want them to go
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through the trouble of trying
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to even find something
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to filter water
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or to boil water with.
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It is just so much simpler
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to go in and say,
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here's clean drinking water.
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Be blessed.
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You can bless someone today.
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You can bless many people
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today.
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Let me give you the breakdown
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real quick.
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The average well
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costs about $4800.
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It varies depending
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on the location, the soil,
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and the transportation.
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There are a lot of factors
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there but when we look at
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the whole program
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and average it out,
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for $4800 on average
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we'll drill a well.
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That well will last
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for about seventy years
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because we do
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a really good job of it.
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Not all wells are the same.
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We put in a quality well
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that is going to last
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for basically a generation.
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We call it a lifetime.
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And that well will on average
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service about 1,000 people;
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people literally come
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from all over.
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And I know, Tammy,
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you've seen -- it becomes
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a congregation point.
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TAMMY: Yes!
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I've been there!
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I've been there when the --
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RANDY: It's a beautiful thing.
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We've gone back years later
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and seen that.
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But your gift today of $48
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will provide water
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for a lifetime for ten people.
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That's how simple it is.
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A gift of $144 will provide
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that same fresh
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clean drinking water
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for 30 people.
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Some of you can provide
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a whole well.
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I've known people
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who have been able
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to provide multiple wells.
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We're just asking
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that you do what God
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puts on your heart.
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We're asking that you
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be a part of the solution
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to a very real problem,
00:24:54.159 --> 00:24:55.327 align:start line:10% position:10% size:48%
but one that we can
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make a difference.
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Tammy, I want to see more joy
00:24:58.096 --> 00:24:59.364 align:start line:10% position:10% size:58%
like that little child.
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TAMMY: I know!
00:25:00.532 --> 00:25:01.566 align:start line:10% position:10% size:48%
And it is possible.
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We know it is possible.
00:25:02.767 --> 00:25:03.835 align:start line:10% position:10% size:60%
It is only possible when
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God's people come together
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and just start building
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something together.
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So this is our chance
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to build something great
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for these people
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for the kingdom of God.
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So go online,
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go to your phone,
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and give the very best gift
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you can today.
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Whatever God's laying
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on your heart, then give.
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Every day, thousands
of lives are lost
00:25:22.854 --> 00:25:24.789 align:center line:10% position:50% size:55%
to waterborne disease,
00:25:24.856 --> 00:25:26.791 align:center line:10% position:50% size:60%
and nearly half of those
are children
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under the age
of five.
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Through Mission:
Water for LIFE
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you can give mothers hope
and children a future
00:25:33.565 --> 00:25:35.734 align:center line:10% position:50% size:50%
as we provide clean,
life-giving water
00:25:35.800 --> 00:25:38.036 align:center line:10% position:50% size:63%
for thousands of children
and their families
00:25:38.103 --> 00:25:40.805 align:center line:10% position:50% size:53%
before it's too late.
00:25:40.872 --> 00:25:43.408 align:start line:10% position:23% size:53%
With your gift today,
you can help drill
00:25:43.475 --> 00:25:46.044 align:center line:10% position:50% size:65%
and establish
350 water wells this year.
00:25:46.111 --> 00:25:48.046 align:center line:10% position:30% size:40%
Your gift of $24
00:25:48.113 --> 00:25:50.115 align:center line:10% position:50% size:73%
will help provide clean water
for five children.
00:25:50.181 --> 00:25:52.717 align:start line:10% position:10% size:65%
A gift of $48
will help provide for ten.
00:25:52.784 --> 00:25:55.120 align:center line:10% position:33% size:43%
And $144
will help provide
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life-giving water
for 30 people
00:25:57.322 --> 00:25:59.391 align:center line:10% position:30% size:38%
for a lifetime.
00:25:59.457 --> 00:26:01.393 align:start line:10% position:23% size:35%
With a gift
of any amount,
00:26:01.459 --> 00:26:03.395 align:center line:10% position:50% size:65%
we'll send you
Dr. Don Colbert's new book
00:26:03.461 --> 00:26:05.397 align:center line:10% position:38% size:55%
Spiritual Health Zone.
00:26:05.463 --> 00:26:07.399 align:start line:10% position:18% size:65%
Discover the key to living
in divine health
00:26:07.465 --> 00:26:09.401 align:center line:10% position:50% size:28%
as you find
a roadmap
00:26:09.467 --> 00:26:12.704 align:center line:10% position:50% size:58%
to adding joy, peace,
and years to your life.
00:26:12.771 --> 00:26:15.273 align:center line:10% position:30% size:40%
With your gift
of $100 or more,
00:26:15.340 --> 00:26:17.275 align:center line:10% position:35% size:48%
you may request the
00:26:17.342 --> 00:26:19.411 align:center line:10% position:38% size:53%
"He Restores My Soul"
candle set.
00:26:19.477 --> 00:26:21.413 align:start line:58% position:10% size:55%
This decorative candle
and match set
00:26:21.479 --> 00:26:23.415 align:center line:58% position:38% size:40%
will inspire you
to remember
00:26:23.481 --> 00:26:25.717 align:center line:58% position:38% size:55%
the restoring presence
of Jesus,
00:26:25.784 --> 00:26:28.520 align:center line:58% position:33% size:35%
the true light
of the world.
00:26:28.586 --> 00:26:31.323 align:start line:10% position:20% size:60%
Finally, please consider
a gift of $1200
00:26:31.389 --> 00:26:34.159 align:center line:10% position:50% size:53%
to help provide water
for 250 people
00:26:34.225 --> 00:26:36.294 align:center line:10% position:50% size:45%
or a gift of $4800
00:26:36.361 --> 00:26:38.330 align:center line:10% position:45% size:40%
to help sponsor
a complete well,
00:26:38.396 --> 00:26:40.332 align:center line:10% position:40% size:48%
and request our new
bronze sculpture,
00:26:40.398 --> 00:26:42.334 align:center line:10% position:40% size:38%
"Lion of Judah"
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:44.903 align:center line:10% position:38% size:38%
inspired by
Revelation 5:5.
00:26:44.970 --> 00:26:49.374 align:start line:10% position:15% size:68%
Please call, write, or make
your gift online today!
00:26:50.442 --> 00:26:51.576 align:start line:10% position:10% size:68%
RANDY: What an opportunity.
00:26:51.643 --> 00:26:52.877 align:start line:10% position:10% size:30%
What a need!
00:26:52.944 --> 00:26:54.112 align:start line:10% position:10% size:65%
But we can be the solution
00:26:54.179 --> 00:26:55.213 align:start line:10% position:10% size:33%
to that need.
00:26:55.280 --> 00:26:56.348 align:start line:10% position:10% size:58%
I hope you'll go online
00:26:56.414 --> 00:26:57.549 align:start line:10% position:10% size:48%
or go to the phone.
00:26:57.615 --> 00:26:58.717 align:start line:10% position:10% size:68%
Make the best gift you can!
00:26:58.783 --> 00:27:00.018 align:start line:10% position:10% size:63%
And then look around you.
00:27:00.085 --> 00:27:01.353 align:start line:10% position:10% size:65%
The House That Jesus Built
00:27:01.419 --> 00:27:02.754 align:start line:10% position:10% size:33%
is everywhere
00:27:02.821 --> 00:27:04.022 align:start line:10% position:10% size:58%
and we're a part of it.
00:27:04.089 --> 00:27:05.156 align:start line:10% position:10% size:53%
And that is the book.
00:27:05.223 --> 00:27:06.291 align:start line:10% position:10% size:75%
You can pick up Natalie's book
00:27:06.358 --> 00:27:07.492 align:start line:10% position:10% size:58%
wherever you get books.
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:08.693 align:start line:10% position:10% size:68%
Natalie, thank you so much!
00:27:08.760 --> 00:27:09.761 align:start line:10% position:10% size:45%
NATALIE: Thank you
00:27:09.828 --> 00:27:10.795 align:start line:10% position:10% size:35%
for having me.
00:27:10.862 --> 00:27:11.896 align:start line:10% position:10% size:73%
TAMMY: Loved having you here.
00:27:11.963 --> 00:27:12.998 align:start line:10% position:10% size:53%
It is not just a book
00:27:13.064 --> 00:27:14.099 align:start line:10% position:10% size:65%
for leaders but a book for
00:27:14.165 --> 00:27:15.266 align:start line:10% position:10% size:73%
every one of us as believers.
00:27:15.333 --> 00:27:16.401 align:start line:10% position:10% size:68%
So thank you for diving in.
00:27:16.468 --> 00:27:17.502 align:start line:10% position:10% size:60%
Thank you for being bold
00:27:17.569 --> 00:27:18.636 align:start line:10% position:10% size:73%
and for speaking into my life
00:27:18.703 --> 00:27:19.738 align:start line:10% position:10% size:45%
and challenging me
00:27:19.804 --> 00:27:20.872 align:start line:10% position:10% size:65%
in my own walk with Jesus.
00:27:20.939 --> 00:27:22.007 align:start line:10% position:10% size:63%
I hope it was a challenge
00:27:22.073 --> 00:27:23.108 align:start line:10% position:10% size:48%
for you too, today.
00:27:23.174 --> 00:27:24.242 align:start line:10% position:10% size:68%
And we'll see you next time
00:27:24.309 --> 00:27:26.311 align:start line:10% position:10% size:35%
on Life Today!
00:27:33.551 --> 00:27:40.825 align:end line:10% position:90% size:03%
♪
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♪
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>> And it means
zero percent chance
of survival.
00:28:05.717 --> 00:28:07.719 align:start line:63% position:10% size:53%
Brooke Martin's faith
and vulnerability
00:28:07.786 --> 00:28:09.721 align:start line:63% position:10% size:40%
brought healing,
resistance,
00:28:09.788 --> 00:28:12.557 align:start line:63% position:10% size:38%
and recovery --
tomorrow!
00:28:12.624 --> 00:28:16.061 align:start line:47% position:13% size:73%
LIFE Today is made
possible by the supporters of
LIFE Outreach International.
00:28:16.127 --> 00:28:19.164 align:center line:47% position:50% size:65%
Your gift will be used
exclusively for the exempt
purposes of LIFE.
00:28:19.230 --> 00:28:21.232 align:start line:53% position:23% size:53%
The ministry features
specific outreaches
00:28:21.299 --> 00:28:23.301 align:center line:53% position:50% size:68%
as examples of the programs
it supports and conducts.
00:28:23.368 --> 00:28:25.370 align:start line:53% position:18% size:63%
Gifts are considered
to be without restriction
00:28:25.437 --> 00:28:27.505 align:center line:53% position:50% size:68%
as to use unless explicitly
stipulated by the donor.
00:28:27.572 --> 00:28:29.808 align:center line:53% position:50% size:60%
The ministry is a member
of the ECFA.